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I'm DONE! I think I'm going to re-read it though. Albus have you gotten your book yet?
So no major major character died. I was really impressed with Neville at the end there. It pretty much went as I was expecting it to go (I knew that Snape couldn't be bad), although I wasn't expecting Dumbledore to have such a past.
I just finished! I knew that Snape was good too... I also caught on about halfway through the book that Harry was the seventh Horcrux (sp?). I also thought that someone more major would die..
pretty good though. i want to re-read book six where they go get the locket - that part is cool
JM = julie :)
So what were the 7 Horocruxes? I feel like I'm missing one.
The ring
The locket
The cup
The crown
The snake
Harry
Was Vodermort one too?
Also isn't there supposed to be one from each house? What was the one from Griffendor? Was that Harry?
There was also the seventh one, Tom Riddle's diary. I don't think Harry was the horcrux from Gryffindor (there wasn't one from gryffindor) because Harry became a horcrux by accident in the earlier encounter with voldemort.
So here's a question: how did Neville get the sword to kill the snake? Last we saw it was being carried off by that goblin. Unless he used the fake sword... but weren't we told that only the real sword could destroy a horcrux?
I totally had the same thought about Neville. I was guessing that maybe the goblins came back and joined the fight?
from wikipedia:
The Sorting Hat is shown to conjure the sword of Godric Gryffindor from under its brim on two instances; in Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets, it provides the sword to Harry Potter, and in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, it delivers it to Neville Longbottom showing an ability of some sort to summon the Sword into it from no matter where it is if the Sword is truly needed by a true Gryffindor. The sword and hat together make up the two known relics of that Founder.
Done! Whew!
Good point about the real sword reappearing at the end without explanation. How does Wikipedia know for sure? I guess it makes sense that Neville had the hat on and then suddenly had the sword. Stupid Voldemort! If he hadn't given him the hat maybe his rad pet snake would still be kicking it.
The horcruxes were (in order of destruction, according to my recollection):
- Tom Riddle's diary
- Gaunt's ring
- Slyherin's locket
- Hufflepuff's cup
- Ravenclaw's Tiara
- First thought to be the snake Nagini, then Harry... not clear if it was one or both in the end
There was no seventh horcrux, the seventh piece of Voldemort's soul rested in his own body. That's my understanding, anyway.
I thought Lupin was a pretty major character, though I was distressed that his roles in all the books after Book 3 were limited to showing up and giving advice. Also: Fred. I liked how he died laughing at Percy's joke. And: Hedwig and Dobby. Dobby was definitely one of the more interesting characters in the books. The entire house-elf setup was pretty cool, and Kreacher even turned out to be interesting by the end.
In fact, the whole last few chapters did a great job of bringing back the whole troupe of old characters without making me roll my eyes too much.
Julie I agree, the part where they go get the fake locket is one of the best in the book. Re-reading it while understanding Dumbledore's whole back story should be pretty cool.
I also really liked how Neville kind of grew into his role, and took his cues from Harry, but carved out his own way. And then grew up to be Herbology professor! If Rowling were Orson Scott Card, I'd love to read these books again... from Neville's perspective.
Speaking of the epilogue... am I the only one who thought it was a little a little cheeseball? I didn't really need any assurance that Harry and Ginny got married and had a litter of kids named after Harry's heroes. I would have been fine imagining the rest of his life on my own.
I wish I hadn't read so fast! What the hell am I going to do with myself now?
Epilogue? Boooooriinnnggg.... I agree, I could have done without it for sure. I'm surprised she didn't throw good ol' Cho back in at the end and still have her get Harry all flustered :)
I was never that in to the whole Harry/Ginny thing so seeing them married with kids was a bit over the top. We were talking about it at work today and one of my co-workers said that she thinks it is because these are children's books and kids need closure and they want to see the 'happily every after'.
I also agree about Dobby and Kreacher. I got all smiley when I saw Kreacher start being nice :)
I also loved the big kiss scene between Ron and Hermione when he was worried about the House Elves and getting them evacuated before the battle. That was right after he got the genius idea to go get the snake teeth from the tomb.
In the sorcerers stone, Harry was super worried about not being a real Griffindor because the hat said that he could also be in slytherin. When he summoned the sword Dumbledor told him that only a true griffendor could. I don't think the goblin came back to fight. I think he just didn't understand the wizard magic that was added to the sword so that it could always be summoned by a true griffindor if needed.
So Horocruxes. Vid and I did some research in book six last night. There was never one made from a griffendor item. Dumbledor thought that was why he came back to the school to try to get a job so he would have access to the sword but he was never able to do it. So there were only ones from the other 3 houses.
Hufflepuff - cup
ravenclaw - crown
slytherin - ring
then his diary (cause it proved he was the heir of slytherin)
mothers locket
Snake
I thought the last chapter was sappy too. The only part I liked was when they were talking about sending love to neville and you found out he was a Herbology professor. Even just the dialog of the kids. Pretty funny. Overall definitely did not need it. Those wizards marry young huh?
I super loved Neville in this book. I loved that part where his grandma came to help fight and she asked where he was and they told him fighting and she gave the "Of course he is".
Ok, am I the only one who found Neville's transformation a little preposterous? He spends the first 3 or 4 books as the butt of every harmless-but-embarrassing-spell-gone-wrong joke, and then suddenly we find out that he's the de facto leader of D.A. and a heroic snake slayer. And then a *professor*? Come on...
i agree the epilogue was lame. but i always like harry and ginny together, ever since she had that little crush on him in the second one.
no i liked that nevill finally got his day in the sun. it just took him longer to get there, but i liked how he picked up where harry left off during their last year at school. and i think during other story lines neville would never be the instigator of the fight, but he would still be standing at the end.
Gruber: I don't think Neville's rise in courage and valor were entirely unexpected. Neville's story was likely as complex as Harry's, we just weren't privy to most of it.
Neville probably had just as many deflating and embarrassing experiences as Harry over the course of the books, and perhaps some triumphant moments (in Herbology perhaps?) that we just never witnessed. Remember that he was also the first to ask a girl to the Yule Ball, and that he had almost as much reason as Harry to fight against the Dark Arts. Furthermore he came from a home where was constantly belittled, like Harry, and had to grow out of that before he could find himself.
You'll also recall that he won extra points for Gryffindor because he stood up against his friends for what he thought was right in the very first book. And his skills in Herbology are alluded to repeatedly throughout the books.
I liked the moment in the last book where he points out that he noticed how everyone rallied around Harry in year 5 for causing a ruckus at the school. A little insight into the inspiration for his later leadership.
Neville was also part of the big fight sequence in 5. Did you actually read all of the books Phil?
carol: all of what books? I thought "the Deathly Hallows" was the first one?
albus: I didn't say it was unexpected. It was very expected. I meant that it was unbelievable. I'm not talking about his courage or valor, I'm talking about his basic competence as a wizard. And you can't really compare Neville with Harry - Neville could barely tie his own shoes in the first few books, while Harry was out there discovering secret chambers and winning tournaments.
But who knows, maybe I just need to go back and reread the early books...
I like Neville. He matured a lot.
I like Ginny. The only reason I don't like Ginny is becuase she isn't cast well in the movie. I remember before being corrupted by the movie - that I really liked her and Harry being together.
This is a good example of how your mind is a better tool for entertainment than a movie. The movie paints the picture too clearly and doesn't leave anything up to the imagination. Old movies used to but that part has been replaced by CGI. Remember how scary monsters and aliens were when you didn't really see them too clearly?
So with regard to ginny (everybody but Vid)... Do you really dislike her character in the book? Or just her actress in the movie. I'd find the former hard to believe. There is nothing wrong with her book character.
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